The death of George Floyd prompted anti-black racism protests, discourse and calls-to-action across the world including in Canada. Systemic racism exists in this country too, after all.

And there’s no time like the present to address it. And no better guest to discuss it with than Marva Wisdom, community leader, consultant and director of the Black Experience Project.



Welcome to In the Business of Change, where we speak with social entrepreneurs and changemakers impacting their communities and the world.  I’m your host Elisa Birnbaum publisher and editor in chief of SEE Change Magazine. Be sure to check out the audiobook version of my book, also titled In the Business of Change, profiling social entrepreneurs around the world, with me as your narrator. You can find it wherever you normally buy your books and audiobooks, including Amazon or on our website.

On today’s episode we speak with Marva Wisdom. A leader with a passion for inclusivity and social justice, Marva is the director of the Black Experience Project, a seven-year research study of the lived experiences of the Black community in Toronto.

In our conversation, Marva shares the findings of the study and what it says about the state of anti-black racism in Canada. We explore some possible steps forward, including the defunding of police, an idea some have been proposing. Marva then explains how allyship, commitment to action and conversations like these give her hope for the future.

Listen to her story here.


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